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Trending Topics COVID-19 Narcissism Alzheimer's Bias Affective Forecasting Neuroscience See All Go Verified by Psychology Today Katherine Ramsland Ph.D. Shadow Boxing 3 Signs of an Inconspicuous Predator in Your Midst Why we don’t see those who intend to harm us or others, until it's too late. Posted Jun 24, 2014 SHARE TWEET EMAIL 38 COMMENTS “I'm always struck by how, after some act of violence, fraud, or sexual abuse, everyone laments: 'Someone must have known! Why didn't they say anything?' And yet, time after time, it seems those who are in a position to see are sidelined, discredited, or disbelieved.'” My sense of it is this: People who can spot predators are ignored for reasons similar to those that blind many people to these offenders in the first place—distortion and denial. Predators count on it, especially in those rare times when someone is savvy enough to spot them and try to alert others. The fact is, we're often just not prepared to accept that evil can get so close to us. As frustrating as it can be for those whose warnings fall on deaf ears, it’s normal to interpret the behavior of those we know in the most benign and ordinary frame. The following paragraphs are excerpts from Inside the Minds of Serial Killers, from a chapter about people who live quite close to predators but fail to see them. Although I focus on serial killers in this blog, I believe the same principles hold for being around sex offenders, con artists, and other types of predators:   Many people believe that serial killers are loners and losers, unable to maintain careers or relationships. They’re supposedly under-educated, narcissistic, and searching for short-term gratification. The public wants monsters to be obvious, and many popular culture productions reinforce the naïve hope that they’re on the fringes of society. But monsters do live among us—easily and with little detection—because the clever ones know how to adapt and to deflect suspicion. Ted Bundy worked a crisis hotline as he murdered young women. John Wayne Gacy buried boys beneath his house while he ran a business, threw fundraisers, and entertained sick kids. “Eyeball Killer” Charles Albright had a master’s degree, knew several languages, was a former science teacher, and had a seemingly satisfying marriage. Three-time child killer John Joubert assisted with a Boy Scout troop. Andrei Chikatilo had a university degree, had been a teacher, and was married with children. Christopher Wilder was a wealthy contractor and racecar driver. Michael Ross had an Ivy League degree. Why don’t we spot these offenders, even socially accomplished ones, before they do so much damage? Many blend in because they’re the type of people who can go through the motions of ordinary living while acting out against others without giving themselves away. In other words, they’re not obviously deranged, and while they’re morally deviant, they can hide it in their bland everyday manner. Among their most dangerous features are a callous disregard for the rights of others and a propensity for violating norms. They can charm and manipulate others for their own gain, conning with no regard for anyone's feelings.  They look for opportunities—taking a security job that positions them to meet potential victims, for example—and they have no qualms, when the time is right, about exploiting them. We want to spot them, but they usually spot us first. Predators have the advantage. Lionel Dahmer, Jeffrey Dahmer’s father, wrote a book after watching his son’s 1992 trial for the murder of 17 men and realized that the manner in which he'd interpreted Jeffrey’s behavior had been naïve, influenced by his personal fears. "I allowed myself to believe Jeff,” Lionel mused, “…to accept all his answers regardless of how implausible they might seem….More than anything, I allowed myself to believe that there was a line in Jeff, a line he wouldn’t cross…My life became an exercise in avoidance and denial.” He likened his behavior to creating a soundproof booth over which he'd drawn curtains to prevent him from seeing or hearing what his son had become. Something similar can probably be said about many people who are in close contact with serial killers. But we must credit the killers with the ability to hide their secrets and perfect their acting skills. As predators get away with their acts, they learn the best ways to deflect others from discovering their secrets, and they enjoy the lack of accountability. They devise different sets of values for different life frames, so that they can speak convincingly about socially-approved venues of right and wrong, yet have no qualms about their socially-condemned behavior. Robert Hare, one of the world’s foremost experts on psychopathic behavior, believes that people need to know what to do in the event they find themselves involved or associated with a predatory psychopath. Among his tips: Be careful of props—the winning smile, the promises, the fast talk, and the gifts meant to deflect you from the manipulation and exploitation that may be occurring. "Any of these characteristics," he says, "can have enormous sleight-of-hand value, serving to distract you."Anyone who seems too perfect is. Psychopaths hide their dark sides until they get their target person deeply involved. Too much flattery, feigned kindness, and cracks in grandiose stories should provide clues and put you on your guard. Make reasonable inquiries.Know yourself—or you might be vulnerable from your blind spots. Predators know how to find and use your triggers, so the more you realize what you tend to fall for, the more closely you can guard against it. Hare admits that even with all his experience, he could still be duped by a predatory psychopath. "In short interactions," he says, "anyone can be duped." Our best defense is to accept that they’re among us, shed our cultural naiveté, take care whom we trust, and understand the mechanisms of their deception and our denial. This means listening when others try to tell us that something is amiss with a certain person’s behavior. It means at least considering the possibility, if the signs are evident, that someone you care about is exploiting your emotions to dupe you and possibly hurt you or your children. SHARE TWEET EMAIL 38 COMMENTS Psychopaths Are Harder To Spot Then Sociopaths Submitted by Anonymous on June 24, 2014 - 5:06pm Psychopaths appear more "winsome" then sociopaths. Sociopaths are more disorganized and cover their tracks less effectively then psychopaths. Figure Casey Anthony, who was acquitted by sheer dumb luck, compared with teacher rapist and murderer Philip Chism, who recently attempted to do the same to a female guard the other day. Reply to Anonymous Quote Anonymous This applies to the Jimmy Saville abuses in the news today Submitted by Anonymous on June 26, 2014 - 7:04pm Thanks for that article, Katherine. It was certainly timely, considering today's report on the Jimmy Saville abuses: A nurse who treated one of his victims recognized something was going on and reported it. She was made out to look like she was crazy or a troublemaker, and her job was threatened: She's calling for more protection for whistleblowers. Do you think she's on the right track, or is something different needed here? With that number of victims, and that level of depravity, it would seem dozens of people - if not hundreds - would have recognized something amiss, and chose to do nothing. It appears far too many actually condoned, enabled, or assisted his activities. Reading the above articles, I'm not sure that there is any advantage to an individual who isn't a predator's target to recognize or acknowledge what they see, unless or until there are systems in place where that information won't be used against them. I think the same thing goes for victims too, in most cases. It would seem our justice and governance systems (in most western countries) are setup to look like they're doing something when, at least for these kinds of cases, their major task appears to be preventing sickening abuses from coming to light, mitigating liability, and passing the hot potato. It seems to me that people who recognize the "inconspicuous predators" you write about would be advised to find ways outside the existing systems to raise the alarm, as the systems in place rarely slow down the predator, but seem to harm the person reporting a great deal, and do little if anything to protect the victims. I know that you often write about types of predators who routinely escape detection - such as female serial killers and health care serial killers. You also mentioned that the tips for detecting serial killers apply to all predators. Mr. Saville certainly appeared to target medical institutions, and used his 'charity' status to get unrestricted access. Would you consider him to be a less-lethal variant of a "healthcare serial killer" (HSK), or is he in an entirely different category? And if people see (or suspect) these kinds of things going on, what do you suggest they should do about it? Or might it be true to say that there is very little that can actually be done when you're dealing with these types of predators? Thank you for writing about these difficult subjects in a straightforward and accessible way. Reply to Anonymous Quote Anonymous Thanks for posting Submitted by Katherine Ramsland Ph.D. on June 26, 2014 - 9:26pm That's the type of person I'm talking about, for sure. What a case! Thanks for posting it here. Yes, whistleblowers often take the heat, especially when others are allied with the predator or have something invested in his "goodness" or their agency. There really are no protections, unless one gets a powerful media outlet interested. With healthcare serial killers, laws had to change, because we were in a situation where they were protected around the country. Things have now shifted in that regard. It's too complex of an issue for me to address in a reply here, and I think as long as there are economic investments in believing a certain thing, predators will keep their advantage. Reply to Katherine Ramsland Ph.D. Quote Katherine Ramsland Ph.D. Where can I find help? Submitted by D. Lytle on November 20, 2018 - 4:22pm Dillon is a 12 year old boy with extreme aggression and predatory instinct. He is in foster care (trying to remove guardianship), and is a threat to the whole family. In the past he has tried to drown his little brother, pushed his sister down the stairs, squeezed a goat until it miscarried, defecates and urinates in siblings beds, attempted to light sister on fire, stabbed sister in the butt with kitchen knife, tells little brother he will slit his throat at night, masturbates in public, etc... Where do you find help? CPS doesn't want him back, and until he murders a fellow foster child is not eligible for Juvenile Hall. He is a danger to everyone. People talk about the behavior, but no one tells where to get help. Michelle Reply to D. Lytle Quote D. Lytle D. Lytle finding help Submitted by Wonderbread on November 20, 2018 - 8:02pm No one in the psychology community should ever label a child a psychopath. They are still developing, though they can have dissociative and anti social traits. If you are the caretaker of Dillon, you need to get this child help. NOT ordinary psychology, and no ordinary psychologist will do, but someone who has practice in turning anti social behavior around in young children. There are practices and psychologists that do this, but you have to find the right one. Watch the video "Child of Rage" on Youtube. It's about a young girl who was severely abused and then adopted, she was very anti-social, and tried to kill members of her adoptive family, and tortured animals, but with the right kind of therapy her life turned around. You need to offer this child therapy, or find someone who will. Sadly, if this child stays in the foster system and merely gets handed off to one family, after another, they may never change and may grow up to be a psychopath/sociopath. This site won't let me post the URL from youtube, but search for "Child of Rage" in youtube and watch the video. Reply to Wonderbread Quote Wonderbread Dillon Submitted by Michelle McGehee on November 26, 2018 - 6:56am Thank you. I will watch the video. Sadley, he is going into a group home. He has to have 24hour care, and has exausted the family. Is their a list of qualified therapists? He has gone in the past, but the therapist was suffering from inexperience, and arrogance. Thank you for getting back to me! Reply to Michelle McGehee Quote Michelle McGehee Following up re Dillon Submitted by JD on September 1, 2019 - 1:14pm I admire your continued care and concern for this boy. I hope you continue to visit him in the group home, knowing he's not forgotten, and that someone cares about what happens to him may help. You might also keep looking for a better psychologist for him, and if the hoe won't look into it - give the information to Dillon himself, to follow through somehow - maybe suggest he call the psych himself - maybe the psych might comp him. Need to stay solution focused here. That could help prevent tragedy all around. Hugs. Reply to JD Quote JD Dillon Submitted by Michelle on September 2, 2019 - 1:00pm Thank you for the encouragement. I have done as you suggested. It comes down to his willingness to change. I dont see it happening short of a miracle. MM Reply to Michelle Quote Michelle Predators Submitted by Steve SM on June 27, 2014 - 3:33pm Predators are out there- I had the misfortune 5 years of meeting a malignant narcissist or psychopath- it was a life changing experience. Reply to Steve SM Quote Steve SM This article is right!! Submitted by Anonymous on August 25, 2016 - 3:58pm There is a very sick man who is married- he's in his 70s. He hosts new girls to the Visitors Center-usually young. I never realized how sick he was until he said he was looking to replace his wife because she's dying of cancer! I was horrified and walked away from the conversation. Every trait described in the article-he has it. Reply to Anonymous Quote Anonymous Tag 'em and get them under control Submitted by Max on July 1, 2014 - 7:45pm I’m a retired engineer. I lived in a retirement place with two hundred people. Lots of the residents were from the jail and mental system because living there was quite inexpensive. After a few meals ruined, rudeness, insults, verbal attacks, inconsiderate behavior, thefts, etc., I had to drop everything and figure out what was going on. I read Dr. Hare's work and things fell in place. So there I was with a good opportunity to push some psychopath's buttons, to observe a half dozen of them. What an education! I read the “Hare splitting” stuff about psycho vs socio… Arguably, one is street level the other is upper middle class. I concluded that they all simply fail to pass the first challenge in life, that of recognizing their feelings and recognizing feelings in others. They are seriously handicapped in that regard. I watched them in the dining hall, staring around. I’m an ENTP, I can look around, take in the action, the body language, the emotions being displayed, who's with who, and I know what’s going on without a second thought. The psychopaths were always looking and looking because without the understanding of what everybody is feeling they can’t intuit a lot. I started experimenting. One of them was a woman that was a con artist/thief/prostitute. She always had this fake smile and said “Happy Day” to everybody. Once I pretended that I was going to carve up her guts and cook them when she said that. I just took a step closer to her with that thought in mind and she shrank back in horror. They are on such a primitive level that they can intuit others intentions somehow. I did that same thing to grown ups and they didn’t respond at all. The psychopaths all had their own agendas and were making 90% of the trouble, serious trouble like no others, and it was easy to see that the rest of us could not ever be happy with that little minority of people having access to us. I realized that we have an option open to us that no culture ever did before: We can diagnose them as early as possible in their lives and put their pictures up on the web. We put molesters pictures on the web in California, it would work the same way. Subsequent to that we could deny them guns, driving privileges, purchase of things that require conscientiousness in use and disposal like chemicals, etc. It is clear to me that we have a choice of being under their thumbs or the other way around. It is quite difficult to deal with them without some forewarning: I learned to recognize their walk, their stares, their conversations that start with “what an angel” they are, and “reasons they need my sympathy” and guess what, recently I let a contractor do work on my house, he turned out to be a psychopath! I paid him to go away and leave us alone as soon as I figured it out. If they just were handicapped we could take pity but they are intra-species predators. We’re starting to wake up to the realities of this situation, I’m seriously hoping that we can get them under our thumbs. Reply to Max Quote Max Rights? Submitted by Anonymous on July 2, 2014 - 10:26pm At least in the US, you can't take someone's rights away without due process. Unless someone is convicted and loses these rights, it would be illegal to take them away and/or punish a person for a biological/ mental condition. It is also pretty inhumane. If someone commits a crime, then they should definitely be locked up. If we recognize this type of behavior in someone, then they should definitely get immediate medical help. If we punish people, they will get better at hiding it. Reply to Anonymous Quote Anonymous "If this goes on..." Submitted by livinintheusa on July 6, 2014 - 4:09pm The film "The Minority Report" is a very good example of what might happen if predictive methods were used, instead of profiling. Predictive techniques are not the same as profiling methods; the former deduces future crimes based on data (family history, childhood, etc.) that can be interpreted any way the predictor chooses, while the latter is based on past similar crimes for which data exists, paired with forensics, a victim's social environs and behavioral analysis. The one thing a predictive technique cannot do is verify its method with specific cases which, if allowed to play out, would prove their technique works. "Minority Report" (book and film) uses short-term time travel (operates for a limited amount of time and not past a certain future time) as the "what-if" that's used in the original story. Which, btw, was written by the late Philip K. Dick, an American SF writer. That's my theory. :-) Reply to livinintheusa Quote livinintheusa Max, you got problems. Submitted by Wonderbread on November 3, 2018 - 10:08am If you genuinely have no life, to such an effect that you must worry about everyone else in your retirement home, and pulling one over on them, dude, you're the one with the problem. I think you need a social worker, not that it's going to do you much good, having to attack a woman just because she says "hello" to you every morning, and you don't like her chosen profession, "prostitute." Which, wtf are prostitutes doing in old folks homes, seriously. Lay off the meth man, it's making you ill. # you're the one with the problem. Reply to Wonderbread Quote Wonderbread The Monsters are Due on Maple Street Submitted by poppa daddy on July 1, 2014 - 7:52pm You really should take the time to watch "The Monsters are Due on Maple Street." I feel the type of warnings and behavioral signs you give are tainted with paranoia and distrust which more or less point a finger at a large part of the male population. Sadly, with that type of advice, I have a hard time seeing any meaningful relationship develop beyond that of the superficial and business. Reply to poppa daddy Quote poppa daddy A psycho behind every bush? Submitted by Max on July 2, 2014 - 11:57am A psycho behind every bush? LOL Reply to Max Quote Max BTK Etc. Submitted by Anonymous on July 1, 2014 - 9:51pm I've often wondered this about killers like BTK. I don't honestly see how it's possible that you could be married to someone like that and not detect that *something* was wrong with that person. Is a true psychopath really even able to have a loving relationship with another person? Reply to Anonymous Quote Anonymous To whomever reads this article looking for a way to spot predators Submitted by Anonymous on July 1, 2014 - 11:17pm Speaking as a social predator myself, the chances are that more of us will read this article than wholesome, everyday people. Why? Because it tells us what you look out for and we can and will use these little pointers to smooth over the mentioned cracks in our veneer. I tell you this because I dislike being like this. Its not fun becoming an outcast and veiwed as an inhuman entity once someone discovers what we hide so carefully. Makes you all harder to fool. Besides, we need relaxed social interaction too. Reply to Anonymous Quote Anonymous Do you know why you are what you are? Submitted by Anonymous on July 2, 2014 - 5:32am You say you are social predator. Why has that happen? Do you know the reason? Reply to Anonymous Quote Anonymous I really don't know to be Submitted by Anonymous on July 3, 2014 - 9:23am I really don't know to be honest. I had a good childhood, a family, education, everything really. I was never an empathetic child, but the worst of it started appearing in my mid-teen years, confirmed after a few stints with the law and multiple psychiatrists. I only realized how hated we are in my late teens and I've tried to hide it ever since, using sites like this to improve my outward image. Reply to Anonymous Quote Anonymous Inequal relationships Submitted by Anonymous on July 3, 2014 - 11:15am One politician and one artist have claimed to become narcisist due to their profession. Everybody were for them, flattering and conforming. Finally they felt being above others and without necessity for empathy. Reply to Anonymous Quote Anonymous Artists and Politicians Submitted by Anonymous on July 7, 2014 - 9:52am I get the feeling that a lot of artists and politicians are. Artists because their professions are mostly about what they feel and how to perfectly present it to the world, which means searching within themselves to the point where it seems as if they can't get out. Politicians because they have to look like perfect humans and make people want to carry out their will. This means they have to essentially become predators using what their prey gives them like a restaurant "Suggestions Box" and they must constantly be aware of how they look to others and how they affect others. At least they're willing to admit it, to their pride or to their shame. Reply to Anonymous Quote Anonymous Professions don't make you anti-social/ Psycho/ sociopath Submitted by JD on September 1, 2019 - 1:40pm Stop falling for predators who try to fool you with elaborate excuses their predatory, entitled, and or exploitive behavior. Nothing forces someone to exploit others. People who exploit others look for enabling settings: they look for kind, helpful, naive people to fool, professions that don't require specific qualifications, and myths or excuses others might fall for to throw them off. There are plenty of people in all those professions you cite who don't exploit - the exploiters merely exploit our feelings with crap explanations to escape culpability for their actions. Peace out. Reply to JD Quote JD ofcourse we do Submitted by anonymous female on June 1, 2016 - 4:53am I am a female psychopath. Incredibly rare as most are men. Ive always found it hilariously entertaining listening to average people describe my mentality to me. It would be the equivalent of a wealthy woman telling a homeless man what its like to be poor. You think you know, but you have no idea. Psychopaths are always in control. Every move is calculated on a weighted and counterwaited scale. My brain naturally branches off into a thousand different scenarios apon each and every interaction. It is uncontrollable. I know what action I will take far befor you even choose which train to get on. I am aware at all times. I have long learned how to read a person and situation quickly. Addaption. With in five minutes of meeting a person I will know exactly what personality traits you are hiding. What makes you vulnerable. What you desire. What you fear. I have never been wrong. Ever. Typically I use this to every advantage possible. Employment, sexual conquest, relationships etc. I do have emotions. Just not the same as everyone else. I feel pleasure. I feel hate. Frustration.passivity. enlightenment. Affectionate (rarely but it does happen) I grew up in a large house with three siblings, a mother, a father, grandmother, aunt and uncle. Everyone had multiple pets including hamsters, cats, dogs, rabbits etc. Everyone except me that is. This always bothered me. I held great resentment towards my mother for this. Once I was in my teens I asked her why I was never allowed to have a pet like everyone else. Her response was that she did not feel that I was compassionate enough to care for an animal. In adulthood I reflected on my memories as a child. Finding bird carcasses, dead cats, half eaten hamster babies. My curriosity to view the gruesome scenes. My disapointment that that was "it" nothing more horrifying? Dropping my sisters hamsters out of my third story window. Things of that nature. Society says to fear me. Which you should in some aspects. In a life or death situation I would not hesitate to take a mans life. If told I must end a mans life to spare my childrens I would befor the sentance was finished and go about my day. Society calls this Evil. I am not evil. I am just not the same. You assume that because I do not carry out my relationships the same as you that I must be a killer. You assume that because I am incapable of feeling and understanding remorse that I must be ragefull. You are wrong. When I see a person whom says they "feel bad" for their actions I know that I can not identify that. That I do not feel that. At first I thought it was a sentiment people would say for satire. I had no comprehention that you actually "feel" something that looks so unpleasing. Really, it looks pointless. The bottom line is that I am a complete mistery to you. I scare you. Because you dont understand me. Because a few of the like have weighted their pleasures higher than their consequences. That is not all of our "styles" it would not benefit my life to commit murder. I do not find it satisfying. It would be irrational. Cold. Calculated. That is the psychopaths mind. Reply to anonymous female Quote anonymous female who's to blame... Submitted by Anonymous on July 3, 2014 - 2:25pm Neither of my parents had friends while i was growing up, they never had friends or tried to make new ones, but they own their business. Also, a rather colorful range of family diseases that exist. Early interaction with my older siblings may also be a factor, they have their inherited illnesses, some behavior may just have been learned along the way in order survive in an unstable enviroment. Reply to Anonymous Quote Anonymous Denial helps predators thrive Submitted by Laura on July 2, 2014 - 3:17am We know who you are. Predators are surrounded by enablers and/or people in denial. Good people have a hard time grasping the evil in a person's heart or believing they are capable of harming their own loved ones making it easier to dismiss. Many times the victim is blamed. It is never their fault. My family were victim of a socio/psychopath father for my entire childhood. Family had seen how he abused my mother and us kids but none of them ever stepped in to champion our right for respect. This denial fueled his powerful & destructive rage making him more and more bold and cowardly in his acts against us, his innocent family. He could have been stopped long before so much damage could be done. He is a coward and the family acted cowardly by supporting him instead of us. Apathy ruled as our little lives we're at stake to his every sado/masochist mechanism that led to our ultimate estrangement for life. I'm still on the outs for being the one to blow the cover off the facade of our happy family. Even when presented with firsthand evidence they were able to find compassion for the perpetrator and marked the victims as troublemakers. I know my situation isn't unique and this is typical. I've forgiven but will never forget. To forget would be to open myself again to be vulnerable to those who may hurt me. Thanks for having the tough conversation. Reply to Laura Quote Laura Laura, I know of what you Submitted by Liana on July 2, 2014 - 7:58pm Laura, I know of what you speak. My family was so dysfunctional, and with all of the trappings of shame and disgrace, coupled with the rules that family must all love each other and of course, we must obey our parents and older siblings... My mother was warning me to avoid my father on one hand, then trying to force me to interact with him because he was my father. It was a nightmare for a child to grow up that way, each of us affected in some way negatively because of it. And still she pushes familial obligation despite all that has taken place. Blood is thicker than water!!! My father has passed on, and I am sad to say I felt nothing from his death, which also angered my mother. He was not in my life for many years before he died, and he was never a Father...I still see no reason why I should feel obligated to mourn his passing. I am not angry anymore, just...empty as it pertains to him. Reply to Liana Quote Liana Hugs for Liana Submitted by Laura on July 3, 2014 - 11:12am Thanks for sharing your experience. I can really relate. My husband told me I would feel relief when he was dead and gone. And when he finally did pass, I was relieved. But it was really a catch 22 though. On one hand he was gone and I would never have to fall prey to his destructive lies and manipulation. On the other hand he could now never own up and make peace with me. So sadly he died as the monster he had always been even though he no longer had any direct influence on me, my family or our lives. Some place deep inside me always hoped and held out for him to become a human being and be a man and own his part. He was entirely incapable of doing that. He really missed out on some beautiful people to love. Take care of yourself and thanks for reaching out. OX Reply to Laura Quote Laura Because their kind can never Submitted by Liana on July 3, 2014 - 5:17pm Because their kind can never apologize, we must be our own advocates. I am sorry you have suffered, but glad you are living a happier life now. That is our gift. Happiness. Be well and remember you are a wonderful person. xo Reply to Liana Quote Liana Sorry, but that article is Submitted by Anonymous on July 3, 2014 - 7:36am Sorry, but that article is effing retarded: Telltale ign #1 of a a predatory psychopath: winning smile, promises, fast talk, and gifts meant to deflect you from manipulation. Sign #2: "seeming too perfect". Too much flattery, feigned kindness, and cracks in grandiose stories. #1 describes every single sales or service person in the world. #2, wanting to seem perfect, covers 90+% of all healthy, normal Americans, and 100% of all advertising. Aaaaargh, Dexter apocalypse Body Snatchers!!! They are everywhere!!! Reply to Anonymous Quote Anonymous I've been working on the Submitted by Max on July 3, 2014 - 11:49am I've been working on the problem of recognizing the psychopath as early as possible. I had a great laboratory to develop that skill and it's still not at all easy. They spend their lives perfecting their art of manipulation and developing a false persona. They spend their lives lying too, I saw a policeman be completely taken in by one. When a dozen people stepped up to refute his story the policeman said "that is the best liar I've ever seen". You can watch for warning signs, flags if you will. Incapable of reading your, or anybody's, facial expression? Do they have a reptilian stare? Do they play the sympathy card very early in the relationship? Do they inflate their "resume" with jargon? Do they lead a parasitic lifestyle? Are they drawn to the "bright lights", do they need constant stimulation? Do they throw tantrums and seem to want you walking on eggshells? Those are things you can find out by observation. If you get to know them better you might be able to answer the questions on Hare's Checklist. Reply to Max Quote Max Experience versus arrogant ignorance Submitted by livinintheusa on July 6, 2014 - 4:21pm So, you have more formal education and work experience in this area than Dr. Ramsland? Do tell. Reply to livinintheusa Quote livinintheusa Error Submitted by livinintheusa on July 6, 2014 - 4:27pm Apologies for being vague in my reply to the "Sorry but..." commenter. That was the comment to which I responded, not the first reply to "Sorry, but..." Reply to livinintheusa Quote livinintheusa can a a person turn into a preditor? Submitted by nikki on May 23, 2015 - 3:09am Can a person just turn into a preditor or is it something that is always been on going in that persons mind? Reply to nikki Quote nikki Brilliant article. The irony Submitted by Gwendolyn on December 14, 2016 - 11:53am Brilliant article. The irony is that their victims are usually turned into this: 'Many people believe that serial killers are loners and losers, unable to maintain careers or relationships. They’re supposedly under-educated, narcissistic, and searching for gratification'. The perpetrator continues to appear normal and well-adjusted on the outside, long after their victim has fallen apart. It's horrible to see others enable and Dr Hare does amazing work. They're more common than people realise, and not everyone in a human body is your friend - be vigilant, and figure out your inner triggers/chinks in your armour so you can protect yourself. Wolves in sheeps clothing is what they are. And they don't have to be serial killers - the psychological damage they wreak on targets and those close to the target is incredible and lasting. When you see the self-pitying wolves outside crying about how cold and lonely they are and 'if you could just let them in for a few minutes to get warm'...Don't open the sheep pen! Reply to Gwendolyn Quote Gwendolyn There are no tell tales to a predator Submitted by Inhell on August 11, 2019 - 1:01pm Predators are brilliant chameleons, opportunistic, indirect, complicated, and mostly, stealth. They change with their circumstance but the goal is always the same identify and control the prey. Reply to Inhell Quote Inhell Predator Barista Submitted by FooledNoMore on September 27, 2019 - 10:51am This is newest cause for divorce but hiding in plain site! It is the "Predator Barista"! These women can look over the mens cars, wallets, if the man is dying? PLU$+They tell lies about what Wife is saying. Move in, and tackle the estate or at least sext money. The entire coffee serving $lut Hut? Shares or joins in with the scam. A sick dying man thinks these younger women REALLY WANT THEM!!??nope!!!!….IT$ THE MONEY $TUPID! ...these scammed men get sicker and sicker. then cannot figure out why they got dumped? I mean "she told me we were soul mates" And "coffee biaatcch" insisted my wife said bad stuff.. Hey, men. You are outta money. And cant travel. Not no more "fun" = GET OUT YOU PENILESS DUMMIE! Go clutter up your your ex wifes front room w, oxygen tanks. Pee bottles and Hospital Beds. That "predator barista" is onto man #666...yer broke. So Stick a Fork in Yer Old Dyin CarKuss. Yer done. ….sadly this is the latest scam dumb men fall prey to. And they learn the "hard way" that young lying cruel coffee little creep. Will do anything to separate those men from their last dime. Even steal the grandkids college money. So Ladies beware! Go on those "mocha runs". So grandpa, or dumb hubbie! Is not fleeced of your last dollars. p.s. These Predator Baristas ALWAY$...have a side job. Its = "Housecleaner"!!!!LOL!!!...their clients are old guys(real old) the "cleanup" is the excuse for entry into ole pops and grandads home!...& it Is of course another lie. Its for sex. And pick pocketing anything of value. Ain't the world and these wicked barista con games so evil??? You cannot wrap your mind around A Mocha Shop being home base for you about to lose your Husband and at least half your estate! Nothing stops these thieves. They are soulless and bound for hell ~ Reply to FooledNoMore Quote FooledNoMore Predator Barista Submitted by Duped Once on November 15, 2019 - 4:38pm This is a warning to women who have a Husband, father, grandfather, brother ect. Who may be frequenting a Mocha Shop. There is a new predator inhabiting these stores. They can see the cars these guys drive. They chat them up. Top priority given to men who have fatal illness. Motive is to get their hands on your mans/family members estate. Or any gifts, cars, life insurane ect. As they can. I was involved inside the scam by informing this evil person "where is your husband today: and "where are you going today" or "this weekend". That gave this sexual predator the times and places both the potential victim (my ill husband) and where I was ( I went frequently out of town). The predator barista tests the waters by "calling in to check on your health". Then they LIE! About your dialogue with this destructive individual and call in TO TATTLE ON HOW CRUEL MY COMMENTS WERE ABOUT POOR OLD DYIN FELLA!!!!…ENDING IN GOOD OLD BARISTA LOOKIN OOU FOR YOU!!…..happily my security system caught this liars lies. And my family was saved. p.s. These kind of baristas always have a second job. They claim to be "housecleaners"!Just in case they are caught in your home. They say "you husband, dad, grandad" WANTED ME TO STOP BY! GIVE HIM A BID!!! ….lie lie lie lie lie. They will sext men after they get off work. Meet up for even more money. Do "house cleaning" calls. In case the neighbors wonder why a women in snake skin stilEtoe boots and super tight jeans and tops go inside old gampys house for 15 mins. The "story" is always "shes cleanin my house"! This has become 1 of the top divorce realities! And the family or wife may have not seen anything "comin". LOL!!...until ole dyin hubby takes the bait. And dumps his wife for this younger "soul mate". Sadly the guy does not get? He is gonna be fleeced of his last cash, cars, taking "trips". Until his bank account is zero. THEN THE NEW PREDATOR BARISTA SOUL MATE MOVES ONTO THE NEXT VICTIM! Most of these men die, Before they ever get to the stage of being dumped. And the old wife figures out that super friendly barista she thought was HER BEST FREIND!!!??? Has destroyed her life and families life. Because of such evil greed and not thinking you are being duped in plain site! I will never allow myself to get close to any barista again. I have had dozens of new ones tell me that more and more baristas are con artists who scam and skim and do after hours sex sessions or over the phone sex. The guys pay them the next day with a rolled up wad of sweaty wetty cash. The baristas know they will get that CA$H! Or the predator barista will tattle tale to....or mail a card to. And she will move onto the next dumb man. I contacted the business owner who I had known for years. About this. The chose the liar predator barista and her buckets or tears. And the LONG LONG LINES OF LUSTY MOCHA MEN.... lookin for that extra w. that mocha. This was a "conference" in Seattle. entitled "Predator Baristas". As women are seeking divorces and counsel. And the lawyers ask at your 1st meet up. "is this pending divorce" cause by a "barista"? And "is you husband dying or have a fatal illness"? When the 2 answers are "YES"!...the lawyer gets to inform her new client what is really going on. Sadly a split estate and ruined future is a horrible shock. Especially when old hubby thinks = "he's found his new soul mate" when he has really found His wicked wiccan wallet emptier. Nothing more. I'd love to hear if any other women have had their lives nearly or ruined by a "predator barista". And my advice: Go to get mochas as a family sport. Double check those emails, sexts,facebook, phones,work phones leave a few recorders around if you suspect anything. Do your own housecleaning or be there. Its a evil wicked world out there and keep your guard up. Be nice. Just not naïve. Reply to Duped Once Quote Duped Once Post Comment Your name E-mail The content of this field is kept private and will not be shown publicly. Subject Comment * Notify me when new comments are posted All comments Replies to my comment Leave this field blank advertisement About the Author Katherine Ramsland, Ph.D., is a professor of forensic psychology at DeSales University and the author of 60 books. 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Edmund Kemper From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to navigation Jump to search American serial killer Edmund KemperMug shot of Kemper in 1973BornEdmund Emil Kemper III (1948-12-18 ) December 18, 1948 (age 71) Burbank, California, U.S.Other namesCo-ed Killer Co-ed Butcher Ogre of AptosHeight6 ft 9 in (2.06 m)Conviction(s) First-degree murderCriminal penaltyEight life sentences (concurrent)DetailsVictims10Span of crimes1964–1973CountryUnited StatesState(s) CaliforniaDate apprehendedApril 24, 1973Imprisoned atCalifornia Medical Facility Edmund Emil Kemper III (born December 18, 1948) is an American serial killer, rapist, cannibal,[1][2] and necrophile who murdered ten people, including his paternal grandparents and mother. He is noted for his large size, at 6 feet 9 inches (2.06 m), and for his high intellect, possessing an IQ of 145. Kemper was nicknamed the Co-ed Killer as most of his victims were female college students. Born in California, Kemper had a disturbed upbringing. His parents divorced and he moved to Montana with his abusive mother as a child before returning to California, where he murdered his paternal grandparents when he was 15. He was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic by court psychiatrists and sentenced to the Atascadero State Hospital as a criminally insane juvenile. Released at the age of 21 after convincing psychiatrists he was rehabilitated, Kemper was regarded as non-threatening by his future victims. He targeted young female hitchhikers during his killing spree, luring them into his vehicle and driving them to secluded areas where he would murder them before taking their corpses back to his home to be decapitated, dismembered, and violated. Kemper then murdered his mother and one of her friends before turning himself in to the authorities. Found sane and guilty at his trial in 1973, Kemper requested the death penalty for his crimes. Capital punishment was suspended in California at the time, and he instead received eight concurrent life sentences. Since then, he has been incarcerated in the California Medical Facility. Kemper has waived his right to a parole hearing several times and has said he is happy in prison. Contents 1 Early life 2 First murders 2.1 Imprisonment 3 Release and time between murders 4 Later murders 4.1 Mary Ann Pesce and Anita Luchessa 4.2 Aiko Koo 4.3 Cindy Schall 4.4 Rosalind Thorpe and Allison Liu 4.5 Clarnell Strandberg and Sally Hallett 5 Trial 6 Imprisonment 7 In popular culture 8 See also 9 References 10 Bibliography Early life [ edit] Edmund Emil Kemper III was born in Burbank, California on December 18, 1948.[3] He was the middle child and only son born to Clarnell Elizabeth Kemper (née Stage, 1921–1973) and Edmund Emil Kemper II (1919–1985).[4][5] Edmund II was a World War II veteran who, after the war, tested nuclear weapons in the Pacific Proving Grounds before returning to California, where he worked as an electrician.[6][7] Clarnell often complained about Edmund II's "menial" electrician job,[7] and he later said "suicide missions in wartime and the atomic bomb testings were nothing compared to living with her" and that Clarnell affected him "more than three hundred and ninety-six days and nights of fighting on the front did."[8] Weighing 13 pounds (5.9 kg) as a newborn, Kemper was a head taller than his peers by the age of four.[9] Early on, he exhibited antisocial behavior such as cruelty to animals: At the age of 10, he buried a pet cat alive; once it died, he dug it up, decapitated it, and mounted its head on a spike.[10][11] Kemper later stated that he derived pleasure from successfully lying to his family about killing the cat.[12] At the age of 13, he killed another family cat when he perceived it to be favoring his younger sister, Allyn Lee Kemper (born 1951), over him, and kept pieces of it in his closet until his mother found them.[13][14] Kemper had a dark fantasy life: he performed rituals with his younger sister's dolls that culminated in him removing their heads and hands,[15] and, on one occasion, when his elder sister, Susan Hughey Kemper (1943–2014), teased him and asked why he did not try to kiss his teacher, he replied: "If I kiss her, I'd have to kill her first."[12] He also recalled that as a young boy he would sneak out of his house and, armed with his father's bayonet, go to his second-grade teacher's house to watch her through the windows.[15] He stated in later interviews that some of his favorite games to play as a child were "Gas Chamber" and "Electric Chair", in which he asked his younger sister to tie him up and flip an imaginary switch, and then he would tumble over and writhe on the floor, pretending that he was being executed by gas inhalation or electric shock.[15] He also had near-death experiences as a child: once, when his elder sister tried to push him in front of a train, and another when she successfully pushed him into the deep end of a swimming pool, where he almost drowned.[16] Kemper had a close relationship with his father and was devastated when his parents separated in 1957, causing him to be raised by Clarnell in Helena, Montana. He had a severely dysfunctional relationship with his mother, a neurotic, domineering alcoholic who frequently belittled, humiliated, and abused him.[17] Clarnell often made her son sleep in a locked basement, because she feared that he would harm his sisters,[18] regularly mocked him for his large size—he stood 6 feet 4 inches (1.93 m) by the age of 15[4]—and derided him as "a real weirdo."[15] She also refused to show him affection out of fear that she would "turn him gay",[7] and told the young Kemper that he reminded her of his father and that no woman would ever love him.[10][19] Kemper later described her as a "sick angry woman,"[20] and it has been postulated that she suffered from borderline personality disorder.[21] At the age of 14, Kemper ran away from home in an attempt to reconcile with his father in Van Nuys, California.[12] Once there, he learned that his father had remarried and had a stepson. Kemper stayed with his father for a short while until the elder Kemper sent him to live with his paternal grandparents, who lived on a ranch in the mountains of North Fork, California.[4][22] Kemper hated living in North Fork; he described his grandfather as "senile," and said that his grandmother "was constantly emasculating me and my grandfather."[23] First murders [ edit] On August 27, 1964, aged 15, Kemper was sitting at the kitchen table with his grandmother Maude Matilda Hughey Kemper (b. 1897), when they had an argument. Enraged, Kemper stormed off and retrieved a rifle that his grandfather had given him for hunting. He then re-entered the kitchen and fatally shot his grandmother in the head before firing twice more into her back.[24] Some accounts mention that she also suffered multiple post-mortem stab wounds with a kitchen knife.[25][26] When Kemper's grandfather, Edmund Emil Kemper (b. 1892), returned from grocery shopping, Kemper went outside and fatally shot him in the driveway.[22] He was unsure of what to do next, so he phoned his mother, who told him to contact the local police. Kemper called the police and waited to be taken into custody.[27] After his arrest, Kemper said that he "just wanted to see what it felt like to kill Grandma" and testified that he killed his grandfather so he would not have to find out that his wife was dead.[10][27] Psychiatrist Donald Lunde, who interviewed Kemper at length during adulthood, wrote "In his way, he had avenged the rejection of both his father and his mother."[4] Kemper's crimes were deemed incomprehensible for a 15-year-old to commit, and court psychiatrists diagnosed him as a paranoid schizophrenic, then sent him to Atascadero State Hospital: a maximum-security facility that houses mentally ill convicts.[28] Imprisonment [ edit] At Atascadero, California Youth Authority psychiatrists and social workers disagreed with the court psychiatrists' diagnoses. Their reports stated that Kemper showed "no flight of ideas, no interference with thought, no expression of delusions or hallucinations, and no evidence of bizarre thinking."[28] They also observed him to be intelligent and introspective. Initial testing measured his IQ at 136, over two standard deviations above average.[27] He was re-diagnosed with a less severe condition, a "personality trait disturbance, passive-aggressive type."[28] Later on in his time at Atascadero, Kemper was given another IQ test, which gave a higher result of 145.[29][30] Kemper endeared himself to his psychiatrists by being a model prisoner, and was trained to administer psychiatric tests to other inmates.[27][28] One of his psychiatrists later said: "He was a very good worker and this is not typical of a sociopath. He really took pride in his work."[28] Kemper also became a member of the Jaycees while in Atascadero and said he developed "some new tests and some new scales on the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory," specifically an "Overt Hostility Scale," during his work with Atascadero psychiatrists.[23] After his second arrest, Kemper said that being able to understand how these tests functioned allowed him to manipulate his psychiatrists and admitted that he learned a lot from the sex offenders to whom he administered tests; for example, they told him it was best to kill a woman after raping her to avoid leaving witnesses.[28] Release and time between murders [ edit] On December 18, 1969, his 21st birthday, Kemper was released on parole from Atascadero.[25] Against the recommendations of psychiatrists at the hospital,[4] he was released into the care of his mother Clarnell—who had remarried, taken the surname Strandberg, and then divorced again—at 609 A Ord Street, Aptos, California, a short drive from where she worked as an administrative assistant at the University of California, Santa Cruz.[31] Kemper later demonstrated further to his psychiatrists that he was rehabilitated, and on November 29, 1972, his juvenile records were permanently expunged.[32] The last report from his probation psychiatrists read: If I were to see this patient without having any history available or getting any history from him, I would think that we're dealing with a very well adjusted young man who had initiative, intelligence and who was free of any psychiatric illnesses ... It is my opinion that he has made a very excellent response to the years of treatment and rehabilitation and I would see no psychiatric reason to consider him to be of any danger to himself or to any member of society ... [and] since it may allow him more freedom as an adult to develop his potential, I would consider it reasonable to have a permanent expunction of his juvenile records.[33] While staying with his mother, Kemper attended community college in accordance with his parole requirements and had hoped he would become a police officer, but was rejected because of his size—at the time of his release from Atascadero, Kemper stood 6 feet 9 inches (2.06 m) tall—which led to his nickname, "Big Ed".[31] Kemper maintained relationships with Santa Cruz police officers despite his rejection to join the force and became a self-described "friendly nuisance"[34] at a bar called the Jury Room, which was a popular hangout for local law enforcement officers.[20] Kemper worked a series of menial jobs before gaining employment with the State of California Division of Highways (now known as the California Department of Transportation).[31] During this time, his relationship with Clarnell remained toxic and hostile with them having frequent arguments that their neighbors often overheard.[31] Kemper later described the arguments he had with his mother around this time, stating: My mother and I started right in on horrendous battles, just horrible battles, violent and vicious. I've never been in such a vicious verbal battle with anyone. It would go to fists with a man but this was my mother and I couldn't stand the thought of my mother and I doing these things. She insisted on it and just over stupid things. I remember one roof-raiser was over whether I should have my teeth cleaned. [35] When he had saved enough money, Kemper moved out to live with a friend in Alameda, California. There, he still complained of being unable to get away from his mother because she regularly phoned him and paid him surprise visits.[36] He often had financial difficulties, which resulted in him frequently returning to his mother's apartment in Aptos. [31] At a Santa Cruz beach, Kemper met a student from Turlock High School to whom he became engaged in March 1973. The engagement was broken off after Kemper's second arrest and his fiancée's parents requested her name not be revealed to the public.[37] The same year he began working for the Highway Division, Kemper was hit by a car while riding a motorcycle that he had recently purchased. His arm was badly injured in the crash and he received a $15,000 (about $90,000 in 2019 when adjusted for inflation) settlement in the civil suit he filed against the car's driver. As he was driving around in the 1969 Ford Galaxie he bought with part of his settlement money, he noticed a large number of young women hitchhiking and began storing plastic bags, knives, blankets and handcuffs in his car. He then began picking up young women and peacefully letting them go. According to Kemper, he picked up around 150 such hitchhikers[31] before he felt homicidal sexual urges, which he called his "little zapples,"[38] and began acting on them.[31] Later murders [ edit] Between May 1972 and April 1973, Kemper killed eight people. He would pick up female students who were hitchhiking and take them to isolated areas where he would shoot, stab, smother or strangle them. He would then take their bodies back to his home where he decapitated them, performed irrumatio on their severed heads, had sexual intercourse with their corpses, and then dismembered them.[39] During this 11-month murder spree, he killed five college students, one high school student, his mother and his mother's best friend. Kemper has stated in interviews that he often searched for victims after having arguments with his mother, and that she refused to introduce him to women attending the university where she worked. He recalled: "She would say, 'You're just like your father. You don't deserve to get to know them'."[40] Psychiatrists, and Kemper himself, have espoused the belief that the young women were surrogates for his ultimate target: his mother.[41][1] Mary Ann Pesce and Anita Luchessa [ edit] On May 7, 1972, Kemper was driving in Berkeley, California when he picked up two 18-year-old hitchhiking students from Fresno State University, Mary Ann Pesce and Anita Mary Luchessa, on the pretext of taking them to Stanford University.[42] After driving for an hour, he managed to reach a secluded wooded area near Alameda, California, with which he was familiar from his work at the Highway Department, without alerting his passengers that he had changed directions from where they wanted to go.[36] Here he handcuffed Pesce and locked Luchessa in the trunk, then stabbed and strangled Pesce to death, then killed Luchessa in a similar manner.[4][40] Kemper later confessed that while handcuffing Pesce he "brushed the back of [his] hand against one of her breasts and it embarrassed [him]", adding that he said "'whoops, I'm sorry' or something like that" after grazing her breast despite murdering her minutes later.[36] Kemper put both of the women's bodies in the trunk of his Ford Galaxie and returned to his apartment. He was stopped on the way by a police officer for having a broken taillight, but the officer did not detect the corpses in the car.[40] Kemper's roommate was not at home, so he took the bodies into his apartment, where he took photographs of, and had sexual intercourse with, the naked corpses before dismembering them. He then put the body parts into plastic bags, which he later abandoned near Loma Prieta Mountain.[40][42] Before disposing of Pesce's and Luchessa's severed heads in a ravine, Kemper engaged in irrumatio with both of them.[4] In August, Pesce's skull was found on Loma Prieta Mountain. An extensive search failed to turn up the rest of Pesce's remains or a trace of Luchessa.[42] Aiko Koo [ edit] On the evening of September 14, 1972, Kemper picked up a 15-year-old dance student named Aiko Koo, who had decided to hitchhike to a dance class after missing her bus.[43] He again drove to a remote area, where he pulled a gun on Koo before accidentally locking himself out of his car. However, Koo let him back inside as he had previously gained the 15-year-old's trust while holding her at gunpoint. Back inside the car, he proceeded to choke her unconscious, rape her, and kill her.[32] Kemper subsequently packed Koo's body into the trunk of his car and went to a nearby bar to have a few drinks, then returned to his apartment. He later confessed that after exiting the bar, he opened the trunk of his car, "admiring [his] catch like a fisherman."[33] Back at his apartment, he had sexual intercourse with the corpse, then dismembered and disposed of the remains in a similar manner as his previous two victims.[32][44] Koo's mother called the police to report the disappearance of her daughter and put up hundreds of flyers asking for information, but did not receive any responses regarding her daughter's location or status.[42] Cindy Schall [ edit] On January 7, 1973, Kemper, who had moved back in with his mother, was driving around the Cabrillo College campus when he picked up 18-year-old student Cynthia Ann "Cindy" Schall. He drove to a wooded area and fatally shot her with a .22 caliber pistol. He then placed her body in the trunk of his car and drove to his mother's house, where he kept her body hidden in a closet in his room overnight. When his mother left for work the next morning, he had sexual intercourse with and removed the bullet from Schall's corpse, then dismembered and decapitated her in his mother's bathtub.[45][46] Kemper kept Schall's severed head for several days, regularly engaging in irrumatio with it,[45] then buried it in his mother's garden facing upward toward her bedroom. After his arrest, he stated that he did this because his mother "always wanted people to look up to her."[45][47] He discarded the rest of Schall's remains by throwing them off a cliff.[44][46] Over the course of the following few weeks, all except her head and right hand were discovered and "pieced together like a macabre jigsaw puzzle." A pathologist determined that Schall had been cut into pieces with a power saw.[42] Rosalind Thorpe and Allison Liu [ edit] On February 5, 1973, after a heated argument with his mother, Kemper left his house in search of possible victims.[46] With heightened suspicion of a serial killer preying on hitchhikers in the Santa Cruz area, students were advised to only accept rides from cars with university stickers on them. Kemper had such a sticker as his mother worked at University of California, Santa Cruz.[20] He encountered 23-year-old Rosalind Heather Thorpe and 20-year-old Alice Helen "Allison" Liu on the UCSC campus. According to Kemper, Thorpe entered his car first, who reassured Liu to also enter.[42] He then fatally shot Thorpe and Liu with his .22 caliber pistol and wrapped their bodies in blankets.[46] Kemper again brought his victims back to his mother's house; this time he beheaded them in his car and carried the headless corpses into his mother's house to have sexual intercourse with them.[46] He then dismembered the bodies, removed the bullets to prevent identification, and the next morning, discarded their remains.[46] Some remains were found at Eden Canyon a week later, and more were found near Highway 1 in March.[48] When questioned in an interview as to why he decapitated his victims, he explained: "The head trip fantasies were a bit like a trophy. You know, the head is where everything is at, the brain, eyes, mouth. That's the person. I remember being told as a kid, you cut off the head and the body dies. The body is nothing after the head is cut off ... well, that's not quite true, there's a lot left in the girl's body without the head."[45] Clarnell Strandberg and Sally Hallett [ edit] On April 20, 1973, after coming home from a party, 52-year-old Clarnell Elizabeth Strandberg awakened her son with her arrival. While sitting in her bed reading a book, she noticed Kemper enter her room and said to him "I suppose you're going to want to sit up all night and talk now." Kemper replied "No, good night."[49] He then waited for her to fall asleep, returned to bludgeon her with a claw hammer, and slit her throat with a knife.[23][50] He subsequently decapitated her and engaged in irrumatio with her severed head, then used it as a dart board. Kemper stated that he "put [her head] on a shelf and screamed at it for an hour ... threw darts at it," and, ultimately, "smashed her face in."[23][51] He also cut out her tongue and larynx and put them in the garbage disposal. However, the garbage disposal could not break down the tough vocal cords and ejected the tissue back into the sink. "That seemed appropriate," Kemper later said: "as much as she'd bitched and screamed and yelled at me over so many years."[52] Kemper then hid his mother's corpse in a closet and went to drink at a nearby bar.[53] Upon his return, he invited his mother's best friend, 59-year-old Sara Taylor "Sally" Hallett, over to the house to have dinner and watch a movie.[54] When Hallett arrived, Kemper strangled her to death to create a cover story that his mother and Hallett had gone away together on vacation.[47] He subsequently put Hallett's corpse in a closet, obscured any outward signs of a disturbance, and left a note to the police. It read: Appx. 5:15 A.M. Saturday. No need for her to suffer any more at the hands of this horrible "murderous Butcher". It was quick—asleep—the way I wanted it. Not sloppy and incomplete, gents. Just a "lack of time". I got things to do!!![55] Afterward, Kemper fled the scene. He drove non-stop to Pueblo, Colorado, taking caffeine pills to stay awake for the over 1,000-mile journey. He had three guns and hundreds of rounds of ammunition in his car, and believed he was the target of an active manhunt.[53] After not hearing any news on the radio about the murders of his mother and Hallett when he arrived in Pueblo, he found a phone booth and called the police. He confessed to the murders of his mother and Hallett, but the police did not take his call seriously and told him to call back at a later time.[54] Several hours later, Kemper called again, asking to speak to an officer he personally knew. He confessed to that officer of killing his mother and Hallett, and waited for the police to arrive and take him into custody, where he also confessed to the murders of the six students.[48] When asked in a later interview why he turned himself in, Kemper said: "The original purpose was gone ... It wasn't serving any physical or real or emotional purpose. It was just a pure waste of time ... Emotionally, I couldn't handle it much longer. Toward the end there, I started feeling the folly of the whole damn thing, and at the point of near exhaustion, near collapse, I just said to hell with it and called it all off."[56] Trial [ edit] Mug shot of Kemper on November 9, 1973 Kemper was indicted on eight counts of first-degree murder on May 7, 1973.[2] He was assigned the Chief Public Defender of Santa Cruz County, attorney Jim Jackson. Due to Kemper's explicit and detailed confession, his counsel's only option was to plead not guilty by reason of insanity to the charges. Kemper twice tried to commit suicide in custody. His trial went ahead on October 23, 1973.[2] Three court-appointed psychiatrists found Kemper to be legally sane. One of the psychiatrists, Dr. Joel Fort, investigated his juvenile records and the diagnosis that he was once psychotic. Fort also interviewed Kemper, including under truth serum, and relayed to the court that Kemper had engaged in cannibalism, alleging that he sliced flesh from the legs of his victims, then cooked and consumed these strips of flesh in a casserole.[1][2] Nevertheless, Fort determined that Kemper was fully cognizant in each case, and stated that Kemper enjoyed the prospect of the infamy associated with being labeled a murderer.[2] Kemper later recanted the confession of cannibalism.[57] California used the M'Naghten standard, which held that for a defendant to "establish a defense on the ground of insanity, it must be clearly proved that, at the time of the committing of the act, the party accused was laboring under such a defect of reason, from disease of mind, and not to know the nature and quality of the act he was doing; or if he did know it, that he did not know he was doing what was wrong."[58] Kemper appeared to have known that the nature of his acts was wrong, and had shown signs of malice aforethought.[2] On November 1, Kemper took the stand. He testified that he killed the victims because he wanted them "for myself, like possessions,"[59] and attempted to convince the jury that he was insane based on the reasoning that his actions could only have been committed by someone with an aberrant mind. He said two beings inhabited his body and that when the killer personality took over it was "kind of like blacking out."[57] On November 8, 1973, the six-man, six-woman jury deliberated for five hours before declaring Kemper sane and guilty on all counts.[22][57] He asked for the death penalty, requesting "death by torture."[60] However, with a moratorium placed on capital punishment by the Supreme Court of California, he instead received seven years to life for each count, with these terms to be served concurrently, and was sentenced to the California Medical Facility.[57] Imprisonment [ edit] In the California Medical Facility, Kemper was incarcerated in the same prison block as other notorious criminals such as Herbert Mullin and Charles Manson. Kemper showed particular disdain for Mullin, who committed his murders at the same time and in the same area as Kemper. He described Mullin as "just a cold-blooded killer...killing everybody he saw for no good reason."[56] Kemper manipulated and physically intimidated Mullin, who, at 5 feet 7 inches (1.70 m), was more than a foot shorter than he. Kemper stated that "[Mullin] had a habit of singing and bothering people when somebody tried to watch TV, so I threw water on him to shut him up. Then, when he was a good boy, I'd give him peanuts. Herbie liked peanuts. That was effective because pretty soon he asked permission to sing. That's called behavior modification treatment."[56] Kemper remains among the general population in prison and is considered a model prisoner. He was in charge of scheduling other inmates' appointments with psychiatrists and was an accomplished craftsman of ceramic cups.[57] He was also a prolific reader of audiobooks for the blind; a 1987 Los Angeles Times article stated that he was the coordinator of the prison's program and had personally spent over 5,000 hours narrating books with several hundred completed recordings to his name.[61] He was retired from these positions in 2015, after he experienced a stroke and was declared medically disabled. He received his first rules violation report in 2016 for failing to provide a urine sample.[62] Kemper on November 17, 2011 While imprisoned, Kemper has participated in a number of interviews, including a segment in the 1982 documentary The Killing of America, as well as an appearance in the 1984 documentary Murder: No Apparent Motive.[63][64][65] His interviews have contributed to the understanding of the mind of serial killers. FBI profiler John Douglas described Kemper as "among the brightest" prison inmates he interviewed[66][67] and capable of "rare insight for a violent criminal."[68] Kemper is forthcoming about the nature of his crimes and has stated that he participated in the interviews to save others like himself from killing. At the end of his Murder: No Apparent Motive interview, he said: "There's somebody out there that is watching this and hasn't done that – hasn't killed people, and wants to, and rages inside and struggles with that feeling, or is so sure they have it under control. They need to talk to somebody about it. Trust somebody enough to sit down and talk about something that isn't a crime; thinking that way isn't a crime. Doing it isn't just a crime, it's a horrible thing. It doesn't know when to quit and it can't be stopped easily once it starts."[69] He also conducted an interview with French writer Stéphane Bourgoin in 1991.[70] Kemper was first eligible for parole in 1979. He was denied parole that year, as well as at parole hearings in 1980, 1981, and 1982. He subsequently waived his right to a hearing in 1985.[71][72] He was denied parole at his 1988 hearing, where he said: "society is not ready in any shape or form for me. I can't fault them for that."[73] He was denied parole again in 1991[74] and in 1994. He then waived his right to a hearing in 1997[75] and in 2002.[76][77] He attended the next hearing, in 2007, where he was again denied parole. Prosecutor Ariadne Symons said: "We don't care how much of a model prisoner he is because of the enormity of his crimes."[78] Kemper waived his right to a hearing again in 2012.[79] He was denied parole in 2017 and is next eligible in 2024.[80] In popular culture [ edit] Kemper has influenced many works of film and literature. He was an inspiration for the character of Buffalo Bill in Thomas Harris' 1988 novel The Silence of the Lambs. Like Kemper, Bill fatally shoots his grandparents as a teenager.[81] Dean Koontz cited Kemper as an inspiration for character Edgler Vess in his 1996 novel Intensity.[82] The character Patrick Bateman in the 2000 film American Psycho mistakenly attributes a quote by Kemper to Ed Gein, saying: "You know what Ed Gein said about women? ... He said 'When I see a pretty girl walking down the street, I think two things. One part of me wants to take her out, talk to her, be real nice and sweet and treat her right ... [the other part wonders] what her head would look like on a stick'."[79] A direct-to-video horror film loosely based on Kemper's murders, titled Kemper: The CoEd Killer, was released in 2008.[83] French author Marc Dugain published a novel, Avenue des géants (Avenue of the Giants), about Kemper in 2012.[84] Kemper was portrayed by actor Cameron Britton in the 2017 Netflix television drama series Mindhunter. Britton received a nomination for the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Guest Actor in a Drama Series because of this role.[85] Extracts from Kemper's interviews have been used in numerous songs, including "Love // Hate" by Dystopia, "Abomination Unseen" by Devourment, "Forever" by The Berzerker, "Severed Head" by Suicide Commando and "Crave" by Optimum Wound Profile. He is discussed in many songs, such as "Edmund Kemper Had a Horrible Temper" by Macabre, "Fortress" by System of a Down, "Temper Temper Mr. Kemper" by The Celibate Rifles, "Murder" by Seabound, and "Killfornia (Ed Kemper)" by Church of Misery. See also [ edit] List of serial killers in the United States References [ edit] ^ a b c Schechter 2003, p. 34 ^ a b c d e f Ramsland, Katherine. "On Trial". Crime Library. Archived from the original on February 10, 2015. ^ McComb, Virginia Mary; Kemper, Willis M. (1999). Genealogy of the Kemper Family in the United States. G.K. 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Issei Sagawa From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to navigation Jump to search Issei SagawaBorn (1949-04-26 ) April 26, 1949 (age 71) Kobe, JapanNationalityJapaneseOccupationWriterHeight144.8 cm (4 ft 9 in)Criminal charge(s)Attempted murder, cannibalism (falsely identified as attempted rape by officials) (Japan) Criminal statusUnfit to stand trial by reason of insanityDateJune 11, 1981Location Paris, FranceWeapon Hunting rifle Issei Sagawa (佐川 一政 , Sagawa Issei, born 26 April 1949) ,[1] also known as Pang or The Kobe Cannibal, is a Japanese murderer, cannibal, and necrophile known for the killing of Renée Hartevelt in Paris in 1981. Sagawa murdered Hartevelt then mutilated, cannibalized, and had sex with her corpse over several days. Sagawa was arrested but released after two years of pre-trial detention upon being found legally insane and deported to Japan. Sagawa's crimes, his release due to a legal technicality, and his post-release celebrity in Japan led to international publicity. Contents 1 Early life 2 Killing of Renée Hartevelt 3 Post-release 4 In popular culture 5 References 6 External links Early life [ edit] Issei Sagawa was born on 26 April 1949 in Kobe, Hyōgo Prefecture, to wealthy parents. Sagawa's father, Akira Sagawa, was a businessman who had served as president of Kurita Water Industries, and his grandfather had been an editor for The Asahi Shimbun. Sagawa was born prematurely and reportedly small enough that he could fit in the palm of his father's hand, and immediately developed enteritis, a disease of the small intestine. Sagawa eventually recovered after several injections of potassium and calcium in saline.[2] Sagawa's fragile health and introverted personality led to him developing a strong interest in literature. Sagawa attended schools in Kamakura, Kanagawa Prefecture, where he first experienced cannibalistic desires while in the first grade, after seeing a male's thigh.[3] In a 2011 interview with Vice, Sagawa reported that as a youth he partook in bestiality with his dog and experienced cannibalistic desires for women.[4] Sagawa attended Wako University and completed a master's degree in English Literature at Kwansei Gakuin University. At the age of 24, while attending Wako University in Tokyo, Sagawa followed a tall German woman home, then broke into her apartment while she was sleeping. Sagawa's intent was to cannibalize her by slicing off part of her buttocks and sneaking away with a small part of her flesh, but awoke and, Sagawa claims, pushed him to the ground. Sagawa was captured by police and charged with attempted rape, and did not confess his true intentions to authorities.[4] Sagawa's charges of attempt rape were dropped when his father paid a settlement to the victim. In 1977, at the age of 27, Sagawa moved to France to pursue a Ph.D. in literature at the Sorbonne in Paris.[2] Sagawa has said that while residing in Paris, "Almost every night I would bring a prostitute home and then try to shoot them, but for some reason my fingers froze up and I couldn't pull the trigger."[3] Killing of Renée Hartevelt [ edit] On 11 June 1981, Sagawa, then 32, invited his Sorbonne classmate Renée Hartevelt, a Dutch woman, to dinner at his apartment at 10 Rue Erlanger, under the pretext of translating poetry for a school assignment. Sagawa planned to kill and eat her, having selected her for her health and beauty - characteristics he felt he lacked. Sagawa considered himself weak, ugly, and small (he was 144.8 cm (4 ft 9 in) tall)[5] and claims he wanted to absorb her energy. She was 25 years old and 178 cm (5 ft 10 in).[6] After Hartevelt arrived, she began reading poetry at a desk with her back to Sagawa when he shot her in the neck with a rifle. Sagawa said he fainted after the shock of shooting her, but awoke with the realization that he had to carry out his plan.[2] Sagawa had sex with her corpse but he could not bite into her skin because his teeth were not sharp enough, so he left the apartment and purchased a butcher knife.[2] Sagawa consumed various parts of Hartevelt's body, eating most of her breasts and face either raw or cooked, while saving other parts in his refrigerator. Sagawa also took photographs of Hartevelt's body at each eating stage.[7] Sagawa then attempted to dump the remains of Hartvelt's corpse in a lake in the Bois de Boulogne, carrying her dismembered body parts in two suitcases, but was caught in the act and arrested by French police.[2][8] Sagawa's wealthy father provided a lawyer for his defense, and after being held for two years awaiting trial, Sagawa was found legally insane and unfit to stand trial by the French judge, Jean-Louis Bruguière, who ordered him held indefinitely in a mental institution.[2] After a visit by the author Inuhiko Yomota, Sagawa's account of his kill was published in Japan under the title In the Fog.[2] Sagawa's subsequent publicity and macabre celebrity likely contributed to the French authorities' decision to deport him to Japan, where he was immediately committed to Matsuzawa Hospital in Tokyo. His examining psychologists all declared him sane and found sexual perversion was his sole motivation for murder.[2] As the charges against Sagawa in France had been dropped, the French court documents were sealed and were not released to Japanese authorities; consequently Sagawa could not legally be detained in Japan. Sagawa checked himself out of the hospital on 12 August 1986, and has subsequently remained free since that day.[2] Sagawa's continued freedom has been widely criticized.[2] Post-release [ edit] Between 1986 and 1997, Sagawa was frequently invited to be a guest speaker and commentator.[9] In 1992, Sagawa appeared in Hisayasu Sato's exploitation film Uwakizuma: Chijokuzeme (Unfaithful Wife: Shameful Torture) as a sado-sexual voyeur.[10] Sagawa has written books about the murder he committed, as well as Shonen A, a book on the 1997 Kobe child murders.[11][unreliable source ] Sagawa has also written restaurant reviews for the Japanese magazine Spa.[12] Sagawa can no longer find publishers for his writing and he has struggled to find employment. Sagawa was nearly accepted by a French language school because the manager was impressed by his courage in using his real name, but employees protested and he was rejected. In 2005, Sagawa's parents died and was prevented from attending their funeral, but repaid their creditors and moved into public housing. Sagawa received welfare benefits for a time.[13] In an interview with Vice magazine in 2011, Sagawa said that being forced to make a living while being known as a murderer and cannibal was a terrible punishment.[3] In 2013, Sagawa was hospitalized from a cerebral infarction, which permanently damaged his nervous system, and since being released has been under the full-time care of his brother.[citation needed ] In popular culture [ edit] Three documentary films featuring Sagawa have been produced: Excuse Me for Living (Channel 4, UK, 1993, 60 minutes); The Cannibal That Walked Free (Channel 5, UK, 2007, 46 minutes) and Interview with a Cannibal (Vice, US, 2011, 34 minutes). A 1986 short film by Olivier Smolders, Adoration, is based on Sagawa's story,[14] as is a 1986 short documentary, Cannibal Superstar, released by the TV channel Viasat Explorer. VBS Meets: Issei Sagawa, a short documentary about him, aired on in 2010.[15] "Too Much Blood", a song on the Rolling Stones' 1983 album Undercover, is about Sagawa and violence in the media. His crime also inspired the Stranglers' 1981 song "La Folie". The Noise Black Metal band Gnaw Their Tongues also released an EP titled Issei Sagawa in 2006. Sagawa's crimes, and his later career as an actor, were discussed in the 2015 documentary Fear Itself by filmmaker Charlie Lyne. Verena Paravel and Lucien Castaing-Taylor co-produced a film about Sagawa called Caniba, which was shown at the 2017 Venice and Toronto International Film Festivals to mixed reviews from the public.[16] References [ edit] ^ "Issei Sagawa: Cannibal Killer". Learning History. Retrieved September 30, 2018 . ^ a b c d e f g h i j Morris, Steven (September 20, 2007). "Issei Sagawa: Celebrity Cannibal". New Criminologist, the On-line Journal of Criminology. New Criminologist. Archived from the original on July 14, 2011. ^ a b c Kosuga, Tomokazu; Lena Oishi, Lena (January 1, 2009). "Who's Hungry?". Vice Magazine. ^ a b "Interview with a Cannibal". Vice Magazine. ^ Ramsland, Katherine. "The Cannibal Celebrity: Issei Sagawa". TruTV. Archived from the original on July 17, 2009. ^ Luzajic, Lorette C. "The Sweetest Taboo: An Anthropology of Anthropophagy". Gremolata. Archived from the original on January 25, 2010. ^ "Incendie, suicide, cannibalism: la maudite rue Erlanger". L'Express (in French). February 6, 2019. ^ "Murderer, cannibal, celebrity: Inside the mind of Issei Sagawa". Retrieved 16 November 2017 . ^ Kushner, Barak. (1997). "Cannibalizing Japanese Media: The Case of Issei Sagawa". Journal of Popular Culture, vol. 31 (3), p. 55-57 ^ "Issei Sagawa". IMDb. Retrieved September 26, 2009 . ^ Issei Sagawa at Goodreads ^ Henshall, Kenneth G. Dimensions of Japanese society: gender, margins and mainstream. rev.ed. Palgrave Macmillan, London 1999 p.207 ^ 『週刊新潮』2006年2月23日号。 ^ Knoll, Paul (April 25, 2007). "Bard of Brooklyn". Metro Times. Retrieved September 26, 2009 . ^ "VICE MEETS ISSEI SAGAWA". Vice. November 18, 2010. Retrieved September 30, 2018 . ^ Lodge, Guy (September 19, 2017). "Film Review: 'Caniba' ". Variety. Los Angeles, California: Penske Media Corporation. Retrieved September 30, 2018 . External links [ edit] Issei Sagawa interview on YouTube, made by Vice Harritz, Pia D. "Consuming the Female Body: Pinku Eiga and the case of Sagawa Issei". Mediavidenskab. Archived from the original on July 2, 2007. Kamiyama, Masuo (October 2, 2007). "' Paris Cannibal' Sagawa still hungers for attention". Mainichi Shimbun. Archived from the original on December 27, 2007. 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